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Re: hi everyone
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Good to see you Bylar! Hope all is well.

- Asta

Posted on: 2008/1/23 11:13
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Re: 20 Questions with a Twist
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The water may not have been ON the victim...but rather...on the bed or touching the bed...

Posted on: 2008/1/22 14:19
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Re: Peaceful Warrior
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Well - I just ordered it. I need something besides silent film which I've been watching lately...

Looks interesting!

Posted on: 2008/1/22 11:22
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Re: 20 Questions with a Twist
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John - if I'm correct - it would also matter what material the bedframe was made...

Posted on: 2008/1/22 11:06
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Re: Please send your loving healing thoughts.
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I am thrilled to hear this...!!!

It's amazing what we don't know about health/disease... I am very, very happy for you - and the bills - ugh - just pay what you can as you go.

I am certainly making Universal Healthcare when of my focus'.

I hope her recouperation continues...

- Asta :)

Posted on: 2008/1/19 18:39
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Re: Help :( I am new here
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It's a good question!

What it is that is a bit different about the Jedi than perhaps those involved in psi or other paranormal interests is that Jedi do not study those alone.

A Jedi meditates to maintain balance and clear thinking. A Jedi also has physical training to ensure their bodies are prepared and healthy. A Jedi also trains mentally through various learning from simple reading to studying communication or psychology, history, martial arts - all within their own pace - but it tends to work together to be more usefull than simply be able to do "tricks".

Most people think we live in an only 5 sensory world. Those in the Jedi Community know we live in a 6 sensory world. It isn't strange that people have some 6 sensory skills - it is merely they are paying attention to that 6th sense.

There is some very good reading material out there - and on this site!

Questions are the best method of learning - of course!

- Asta

Posted on: 2008/1/18 11:11
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Re: Are Jedi Realists really a stealth religion?
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That has always been my concern. That one group of Jedi would try to define another.

Not that there can't be "groups" of Jedi who are like-minded in their philosophies.

Let's face it - the idea of a Jedi "church" is not what George Lucas or Joseph Campbell had in mind - nor are the Jedi considered Clergy in any way.

But is it wrong in the real world to have them - considering our social history and culture?

No!

But my concern is in calling Jediists who are the religious branch of the Jedi - called Jedi unless they are also Jedi.

Jedi are a few things - and these are important distinctions but not exclusive in terms of a Jedi Community.

Jedi train - they don't just read, think and discuss. They don't just train physically. They don't just train psychologically or spiritually (Force Studies, etc.). They do all three, as part of their everyday lives - likely - for all of their lives.

Is a pilot the same as a controller in the control tower? The pilot has certain physical training the controller does not need to have - and must pass physical requirements. Each has separate skills and some similar.

Are both equal in importance? You bet!!!!

Jediists who are not training to be Jedi are simply not Jedi. We all know it. We all know who is training as a Jedi and who is not.

I think the lie hurts the community more than simply allowing the diversity.

If you want to be a Jedi train to be one. If you want to be a Jediist - train to be one. If you want to be both - train to be both.

There are others of the Jedi Community who are neither. They may be Jediist philosophers, Jediist physical trainers, etc.

When I began I thought a Jedi was more as a Jediist. But as I worked and trained, and saw what was required I had to make a decision. Do I want to be a Jedi or a secular Jediist, Jediist Philosopher, Jediist Historian - what have you.

I'm already considered fairly valuable as a Jediist Historian. But I am also training as a Jedi... I see no problem in both...

If there is a real difference - trying to cover-it-up will cause division. We all know who is training - and who is not. Don't we? Has it not been mentioned numerous times who deserves rank here and who does not due to lack of training?

Why not allow for the diversity and have honesty and comfort in our real paths?

One day I may decide to be a Jediist Historian only. You never know...it isn't my calling or path right now. I will feel every bit as much a part of any Jedi community no matter.

The root word is Jedi. The Jedi are as Master Nassim so well documented. But we are real people and trying to make a community on planet Earth 2008.

I just don't see the problem with being honest, and being very good and excited about what we are called to do here.

Posted on: 2008/1/18 10:53
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Re: Happy Birthday Chappo
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Happy Belated Chappo!

Hope you had a great day - and a wonderful year ahead!

- Asta

Posted on: 2008/1/18 10:35
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Re: Are Jedi Realists really a stealth religion?
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For example without the element of worship Asta does not feel religious. I believe she finds the life of a Jedi a spiritual experience and that's just fine.


No... We never worshipped as Quakers - but the Quaker are a religion. A religion is composed of a group of people who feel there is a deity/Universal Consciousness - and that "deity" or Universal Consciousness was founded by a person or founder of the "religion". It was built from one individual or group.

The Jedi are not based on one real person finding a diety/Universal Consciousness. It is based on an idea of a group of fictional beings and what is called "The Force" - which is based on all the religions/spiritualities/philosophies of our world. i.e. Joseph Campbell.

Ask yourself this: Would Joseph Campbell believe the Jedi were a religion? A spirituality? Or something new - using the Force as a part of themselves and the world around them?

I feel it is the last.

Others may disagree and that's fine.

One thing I know. A Jedi must train or she/he is not a Jedi. A Jediist can train or not as they feel.

One is no better, higher, important than another. Part of a Jedi's training is physical, part is mental, and part is spiritual/philosophical/psychological. A Jedi is active and skilled in the real world.

A Jediist does not train to be a secular entity. Rather - they feel the Force is a spiritual matter. In this - they may be a religion. They may be clergy. But they do not have a secular feeling of the Jedi.

AGAIN - A Jedi can be a Jediist. But a Jediist cannot be a Jedi without training.

Does it matter? In the long-run no. But in the short-run and until we can come-together it is important to know the difference.

Is someone who works daily in meditation, physical training, mental/philosophical/psychological training, in any way the same as someone who simply believes in the Force and says so.

I'd say there is a big difference in their lives.

I believe that is the difference that really creates a schims when it comes to Jedi Community Unity. The philosophical questions of light/dark/grey/Sith are simply that - philosophical questions and our own philosophical feeling.

Personally - I feel the Light Side is what is right for me - and to be honest - I feel it is the classical Jedi. In the end - we all want to be of use to society in the positive.

How we go about it is a bit different.

I'll take Br. John and I as an example: I train every day, I take classes, attend Qigong and other physical work as part of Jedi Training. Br. John is called to the clergy and discussion of spiritual/psychological/philosphical matters.

Who is more important to the Jedi Community.

A silly question. Both are needed equally. But there is quite a difference in our daily lives. In our ourlook towards our callings.

Mine is secular training - his is spiritual - and of course there is cross-over (thank goodness!).

Truthfully - so long as the Jedi are not called "a church" or a "religion" I think all is well. Likewise - I wouldn't want to preclude religion from the Jedi Community.

Is it that difficult?

Because we have a town where some people go to the skating rink and some people go to the church - are those people not still of the same town?

I just don't understand the hostility to tolerate the differences. Diversity always brings strength.

Yeah?

Posted on: 2008/1/17 14:57
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Re: REIKI - Tutorial
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This just freaks me out!

Works GREAT on sinus infection.

You know - I must have misread because I thought Tenorah was to assist others - not onesself.

I suspect this would help with headaches as well.

My head is still hot - and it feels GREAT.

Fellow Jedi - Jediists - if you are not learning Reiki you are losing-out on such a fantastic skill.

Over the holidays I even began drinking diet cola again - and my eating was a lot of sweets and not as much good, healthy food.

When you do Reiki - you know the difference in your entire health. I felt mine declining but I was just so "busy" I didn't bother with much of anything...

I wish people could experience how wonderful this is!

VERY grateful - Master Nassim!

- Asta

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