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Re: Church of Jediism Lies, More Lies & Fraud
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Daniel Jones has stated in interviews that Church of Jediism (UK) has 500,000 members with 100,000 members training. He's stated they charge a fee for training. So if 100,000 people have paid even the equivalent of $1 each (it's more than that) he's taken in $100,000. An interesting situation this is because if he's telling the truth he's committing tax fraud and if he's lying he's a serial liar who's just saying anything to get publicity.

Has the tax been paid on this income? It's easy for the UK government to check. They don't care where the report comes from.

There was a for profit corporation filed in 2010 but it was dissolved in 2012. I've done extensive research to see if Church of Jediism (UK) is a registered charity. It's not. It's not a non-profit organization either. To the best of my knowledge it's just Daniel Jones doing business as Church of Jediism dot org dot uk. I refuse to give them a live link but I'm sure you can get there with that.

There's this.

Report tax evasion
Report someone to HM Revenue and Customs (HMRC) if you think they’re evading tax.

For example, they might be:

not telling HMRC about tax they owe (eg on business profits)
keeping business ‘off the books’ by dealing in cash and not giving receipts
hiding money, shares or other assets in an offshore bank account (‘offshore tax evasion’)

See: https://www.gov.uk/report-an-unregistered-trader-or-business


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Church of Jediism Lies, More Lies & Fraud
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See: http://ChurchOfJediism.org

Does it make you sick to see someone, allegedly a Jedi, lie so much and so often? Serial liar and con artist Daniel Jones claims to be the founder of The Jedi Religion, have the first digital church, have over 500,000 members with 100,00 members training who've paid at least 5 British Pounds to merely begin training.

If that's true they've taken in over 500,000 British Pounds which is over $700,000 US Dollars. Ha the tax been paid on this?

What's more astonishing is that nobody in the media seems to ever Fact Check this load of utter nonsense.

He charges to be a registered member. They charge to attend a service. They charge for training. The only place calling itself a church and doing that is Scientology. Oh and now Church of Jediism UK.

He claims to be non-profit but there is no non-profit organization registered anywhere in The UK and they are not a charity.

https://www.inverse.com/article/9262-j ... massive-boom-for-converts





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Re: Todd is in critical condition.
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I visited Todd and was able to speak with his nurse. She said he has a way to go but she believes he'll be OK. He's in a medically induced coma to allow him to heal. The surgeons had to wire his jaw.

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Re: Radio Show Opportunity for TOTJF
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So nobody is interested in promoting TOTJF or telling about what you do and what you're accomplishing?

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Radio Show Opportunity for TOTJF
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Hi everyone. It's been ages since I've posted. It's great to see some familiar names still here.

I don't know who's on your 'counsel' or management team but I wanted to let you all know about a Internet radio show hosted by The Knights Of Awakening http://www.koaaxiom.com/site/ .

It's done via Skype and you'll want a headset for the best possible sound.

I was on the show last week and it was lots of fun.

The show lasts from one to two hours and people can call in and ask questions.

I'd be happy to recommend you to the producers and I'd think they'd be delighted to have you. I know they want to hear from as many of the major Jediism / Jedi Realists as possible.

If you all are interested PM me here and I'll be checking.

MTFBWY All,

Br. John

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Re: Jediism - UK Company Tries to Trademark Jediism
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Here we go again, yet another example of corporation’s greed high jacking religion for financial gain! What next Christians paying a copyright fee every time they say the name “god” or “Jesus.” Honestly this is the point where I turn from a religion. However the fact that TOTJF is a free service still gives me hope that there are some people pursuing religion for the sake of religion not money.


For one rogue group to spoil it for you would be a victory for them and a loss for you and Jediism.

Temple Of The Jedi Order and many other organization will file a formal protest as soon as we legally can. The trademark proposed has only been examined but not published for public comment and protest. When it is published (and we check every single day) then we can file a formal legal protest for a fee of $306 US so there is THAT.

The good news is that when they are defeated it will establish an excellent legal precedent and be a big help in case some idiot tries to do it again. As a bonus he'll then be forced to pay most of our costs to defeat him.

This is none other than that [insert your best curses here] Daniel Morgan Jones of Holyhead UK who stole sermons from this very site back when it was the 'Old' Temple Of The Jedi Order, did not even read the Creed, Code or Doctrine, did zero training, dressed up in a Jedi Costume and said "We're a church". His wild claims that he invented Jediism and created the religion with 500,000 followers are easy to find on Google.

This is an all time new low for this fraud and poser.

A little while back this group had a scheme to unify all the Jediism organizations on Earth. That meant flying under THEIR flag.

I defy you to go to their site at http://ChurchOfJediism.org.uk and find anything about Jediism or training. You can get a short essay which they call a book for free and then you'll pay for more or you'll get nothing. If you do pay you'll still get nothing since after reading that first book the memory of it makes me wish I could throw my head away. The thought of more of that blather is ... unthinkable.


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Jediism - UK Company Tries to Trademark Jediism
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This should horrify all Real Jedi especially ones in The UK. The Church of Jediism Ltd, a for profit company masquerading as a church, has filed to trademark the word Jediism in The UK.

See: http://www.ipo.gov.uk/domestic?domesticnum=2566843

Temple Of The Jedi Order will file a formal legal protest on the grounds that the trade mark is one which is not unique to the applicant and should be free for everyone in that line of trade to use. In the language of UK trademark law a line of trade does include non-profit endeavors like a church and religious education.

At this stage the application is listed as 'Examined' and it is too early to file the protest with The UK IP Office. When it gets to the 'Published' stage there is a window of opportunity for any interested party including an individual to file a protest.

What do you think?

I will post significant updates here but anyone who wants to help should email me with the subject Jediism Trademark at JohnHenryPhelan@gmail.com so I can put you on a list to contact you about an unofficial online petition and how you can take action that will count.

Folks actually citizens of and / or living in The UK have a particular interest in this so note that fact in your email please.

May The Force Be With You All and Serve You Well,

Br. John+
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Holyhead Church of Jediism Incorporates as a For Profit Company With One Member
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The Holyhead UK Church of Jediism incorporated as a for profit business in June 2010. Their Charter says nothing about it being a church or engaging in religious or charitable activities but does say that all profits / dividends go to the sole owner and member - Daniel Morgan Jones. The corporations model limited by shares does not allow for additional members or even stockholders since it has only one share of stock. Their legal name is now Church of Jediism Limited. A copy of the Charter is available at http://ChurchOfJediism.org/documents/ ... hOfJediism-UK-CHARTER.pdf .

If it ever was a church it certainly is not now. It's a business that sells merchandise with it's logo like, for example, t-shirts and Jedi costumes. Legally it has one member / shareholder / director - Daniel Morgan Jones. Any claims by the Church of Jediism Limited of having more than one member is fraud. What they call 'Chapters' are branch offices and 'Members' are not legally members but just people who are registered to use a web site and potential customers.

Anyone may verify that the copy of the Church of Jediism Limited Charter listed above is legitimate and accurate by purchasing a copy directly from Company House UK for one British pound. It may be purchased online with almost immediate delivery.

This information was last verified and updated on November 28, 2010.




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Re: Anyone heard of this book coming out? 'The Jedi Path'
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I'd love one. $63 ! I still want one.

This is a Lucas authorized work and does not address Jediism.

About the book The Way of Jediism - it's happening. This year.

I just can't bear to have the First Edition without an essay from many of you here.

There is no book 'out there' that is specifically about Jediism.

It's going to be noticed and help many.

It's not going to be a survey about how every little group views Jediism but how TOTJO / TOTJF view it which is the same.

TOTJO is a church and does ordain clergy.

TOTJF is a religious order and does not give ministers licenses.

Other than that the philosophies are the same.

Is there some reason for the lack of participation or is it just inertia.

I apologize for semi-hijacking this thread but time is short and I'm ready to get this on Amazon.

John

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The legal issues of online ordination do not apply to ministers licenses and ordinations from TOTJO. There are several reasons and the main facts are that we require an application; it is considered; it is not automatically approved; most of our members are not ministers.

Remember that if any member here at TOTJF wants to conduct a wedding for a friend or relative we (TOTJO) can issue a commission to conduct the ceremony and provide any necessary documentation. As long as you are a Knight or Master at TOTJF / TOTJO or are a member in good standing with a Knight or Master to vouch for you then we'll be happy to help. You would need to register at TOTJO and submit a Jedi Application for our records but a commission is for a one time specific event and not a general license so it's not something that requires advanced studies in Jediism etc. As we have some Christian Bishops we can help you with real Christian Baptisms too which are even recognized as valid by The Roman Catholic Church should it come up.

This is just some helpful information FYI to whom it may concern.

Master Octagon is an ordained Bishop of Temple Of The Jedi Order in good standing so he can certainly conduct a wedding anywhere in the United States states or territories.

With the permission of The Council at TOTJO he can ordain Jedi Ministers. Only a Bishop has the power to ordain at TOTJO.

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