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The US Election 2016
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I must admit that it hit me that no one commented on the election in the U.S. here. Perhaps it's because people are still in shock or everyone has already said their peace on FB, or people don't want to say what they feel out of fear of being ridiculed.

Well, whatever the reason feel free to speak your peace and share your feelings about Trumps victory and the state of the Union.

Also, think about what this means as a Jedi. How does what happened fit into the Jedi Doctrine, Code, and Creed, which is our foundation as Jedi. How are we, the nation, and the planet, responding to this trial of spirit?

Comments are encouraged and welcomed.

Posted on: 2016/11/12 16:20

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I feel tired. I feel that it is too big for me to wrap my head around, with too little influence in the spheres that will need to be tended.

I feel weak. After months of mediating and tending the threads of lives that make up such a colorful spectrum, only to see the worst in people suddenly unleash.

I feel afraid. Afraid that the choices over my body are going to be taken away from me again. That I will have to go back to the numbed mind I came from to protect myself from what I had to endure.

Most of all, I feel intense. I have a magnified sense of awareness in the movements and words of people. It helps me when I mediate to bring about the best result for all involved.

But I feel tired. I feel weak, stretched thin across the Force.

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Well im not upset about his win

If he is the white knigh that he clames to be here to set this ccountryback on the path it started on then it could be a good thing. No i didnt vote for him nore did i vote for Hillary.

However i feel like he is just a different head to the same serpent. A lying sack of #OOPS# just like the rest. Im sick of shadow goverments playing us like a fiddle sucking the life and money out of us.

All that being said i plan on staying out of the political game. I as a jedi plan on doing what im supposed to as a jedi. Help others stand for justice and continue to spread love and compassion to everyone i meet.

So how does that effect us as Jedi ? Quite simply it doesnt just like every president we have ever had only slight changes to our lives are ever made some suck and others dont. Our governmentis set up in a way to protect us from one person trying to destroy the country.

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Honestly, it was just that there's so much about the election everywhere; this is a sanctuary for me in many ways so I felt no need to drag something with this kind of negative connotations in here, although I do see the importance in talking about it.

It should affect who we are as Jedi, because Trump built an entire campaign out of hate, and we're seeing the effects of it all across the US and internet. People being grabbed inappropriately, more hate speech, women getting their hijab torn off, etc. There are vulnerable groups out there, right now, who fears for the safety of themselves and their families, because it has over-night become legitimate to harass people due to sexual orientation and ethnicity. What I am seeing being reported in the news is absolutely disgusting.

Hence it should affect who we are as Jedi because when darkness begin to suffocate people; it's up to us to ensure the light shines brighter! We swore an oath to defend and serve. Nobody in a civilized society should have to fear for the safety of their family simply because they're different than the majority. It doesn't belong in a modern society and if the majority can't see that; then it's up to us to fight for it. Not physically so, that's not what I am saying, but through speaking up when we see injustice, being a loud and vocal supporter of people who are in need of allies, and not be the type to sit down and shut up because "this is how it is now".

A vote for Trump was a vote for sacrificing the safety of minorities so maybe the majority could get some more cash on their hands. That's in all earnest how I think about the matter, and I am very disappointed. The guy has gone bankrupt 4 times, diminished the family fortune he inherited, he's a lying, scheming cheat and yet people bought into his "anti-government" propaganda & were willing to ignore all the disgusting things he said and inspired along the way. And even worse? If the guy gets impeached, he managed to select an EVEN WORSE vise president, lol, someone who'll set human rights back to the stone-age. So damned if you do, damned if you don't.

I think Americans will have a major fight on their hands over the next 4 years. You're going to see the worst of the worst rise feeling their hate is legitimate; and a lot of people will suffer for it.

On the bright side... because there's a bright side to everything; you just gotta be willing to look past the clouds. At least all the muck is out in the open, and now you got a real chance at combating anti-women, anti-LGBT and anti-diversity attitudes once and for all. When things are the most difficult, that's when someone steps up and changes history. We've seen that before. It might feel like one step forwards, two steps back; but Trump didn't create the kind of hate we're seeing today. He simply made it visible. And it's hard to fight what isn't in the open.

So I have hope and faith that regardless of how horrible things get; this might turn out to become something positive down the line. There are not only Jedi out there, but others willing to pick up a hatchet and fight for their right to live safely and without harassment. There's no doubt in my mind that you'll endure and grow better from it. And in the meantime, I'll do my best to aid where I can, even though I am simply sitting by a desk here in Norway. Whatever I can do, I will do. If nothing else, to give support and inspiration to those needing it to continue fighting through their struggles.

Everything else remains the same; our code and our doctrine. But if we swear to defend and serve, and yet do nothing in a time like this; are we Jedi? Or are we simply pulling up our Jedi card when it's pleasant to do so? Hence this should affect who we are as Jedi, because it should inspire us to be better Jedi; willing to fight harder for the people in our community and their safety. We can't become less the harder the fight gets. That's when we need to get up and; work harder, fight smarter and be willing to give more for others.

And above all: never quit!
This might have been a tiresome election, but that was just the beginning. We don't back down when people need us, we don't give up because things get rough; we toughen up & find our calm center; and then we get out there and do the work. We can be so much more than we ever thought we could be, and this is exactly the kind of time when our best is needed out there. So I say we take a deep breath, remember our vows, right our focus and be Jedi, no matter how hard it gets. Compassion and hope.

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To be honest I stay out of politics as much as possible since almost everyone if not everyone in politics is just in it for thw money and to crush the people of lower classes.

That being said, I agree with Ziphin, Trump is just another head on the hydra of the shadow government and as such we will have to see how they play out the next four years.

An as to Rozen's post it is tiring to have the worst people riot and vandalize everything because their weak minds have been twisted by the lies and brainwashing of the politicians.

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I posted to Heartland's Tumblr and KoA as a Force Realist article. Hopefully it adds to your OP Octagon :)

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A week after the results were announced to the world that Donald J. Trump won the electoral college the United States is still in shambles, and our counterparts across the world are just as emotionally polarized about it as we are. Nothing is more frustrating than being on the opposite end of abuse, and that is the state of America we live in…for the time being.

If you were rooting for HIllary, you may be spinning from the knowledge that…we’re headed forward into a Trump Presidency. You may have jumped on board for a petition to get the electoral college to change their vote come 19 December 2016, joined a protest in the streets or taken to the keyboard on twitter and Facebook to express your anguish.

If you were rooting for Trump, you are probably in a mixed state of elatedness and feeling a bit disturbed. You might be angry at the people on the “Hillary Camp” lashing out at you for voting against them. You might experience a sense of vindication or relief now looking at what is going on in various cities across the United States.

Some of you are simply hurt that anyone would make sweeping statements about everyone on whichever side you backed.

And then you have the very few of us that backed one, and are hurt by what they see from both sides. Honestly, that’s where a Jedi should be. If the Jedi Path means anything to an individual that claims to be of the Jedi Community, then they would look at what this election has done to everyone around them and not let the candidate they backed define their emotions towards either party.

The majority of you, backed Hillary Rodham Clinton. A few of you backed Donald John Trump (yes, that’s what the “J” stands for, learned that from Nickelodeon!). Very few of you backed a third party. And it’s probably you 3rd party people that are sitting back laughing at the whole lot. Which is fine, you didn’t contribute to the chaos, regardless of what anyone has to say.

Chaos, yet Harmony

What a line. Jedi need to step outside of the chaos and look for ways to bring about harmony. It’s not going to be easy. People have done what they can to poke holes into the “You backed a Rapist” and “You backed a Criminal” since the election got really heated. But here’s where a Jedi looks to another line for answers on how to cultivate harmony-

Ignorance, yet Knowledge

The reality is, if you step back from everything- this problem isn’t about HRC or DJT. The media helped play these ideas up that one candidate was better than the other- and I’m not just talking about the Mainstream Media (commonly abbreviated to MSM), I’m also referring to polarized outlets that people ran to when the MSM showed they weren’t going to cover anything with a degree of fairness. Occupy Democrats, RedState Watcher, Huffington Post and Breitbart News, just to name a few.

The truth is, these groups wouldn’t even be important to us if it were not for problems that existed long before this election began. Things that existed before Black Lives Matter was a thought in the minds of it’s founders, but erupted like a volcano after the Michael Brown shooting. These pre-existing cultural (race, sexuality, religion, etc) tensions are the root of our problem, and an excuse was to be found in the people that might one day become the leaders of the United States: Hillary and/or Trump.

Abroad, these stories circulated, and cultures banded together. Although America is considered the free world, this isn’t about who runs the free world (well..perhaps to the leaders of every other country, but not to the average person)- it became an election that would define the very human rights that America represents. It’s no longer about LGBT rights in America, it’s about LGBT rights. No longer about American Black rights, it’s about Black rights. Not about Muslim rights in America, it’s about Muslim rights. This whole election has been turned into a platform to further world rights in various minority communities. In order to move forward, this understanding needs to be at the center of a Jedi’s forward action to the future.

Emotion, yet Peace

Knowledge alone cannot help us move forward. We must confront our emotions with this knowledge. Which side are you on? The question is not easy. To understand the side you are on, you must recognize that your side is no more important that someone else’s.

Many on the right voted based on a belief that law is necessary for good society to function. They wanted to protect a minority defined by choice, rather than something one cannot change about themselves. These minorities are people of the groups such as Military, Law Enforcement and Emergency Responders. Some on the right voted based on a belief that Trump had a stronger platform to improve the economy, rather than place any sort of emphasis on social special interests, and in the realm of improving our relations with foreign powers.

Many on the left voted based on a belief that society was in more need of assistance. That the various cultures based on things they cannot change about themselves was necessary to improve their state of life. Examples of these minorities are people of color, LBGT+ and women. Some on the left voted based on a belief that Hillary had a stronger platform to deal with foreign powers abroad as they decimate cultures that are in desperate need of assistance and that Hillary represented a focus on helping break glass ceilings.

Understanding this, and moving outside of the realm that anyone sought to “normalize” criminal activity (HIllary) or bigotry (Trump) is the first step to overcoming hatred for the supporters opposite of whatever candidate you voted on.

Understanding this, and moving outside of the realm that either side is defined by Hillary or Trump is the first step in overcoming our fear for the future. Because both sides now have something to fear from the other side if we fall prey to the rhetoric.

Death, yet the Force

The death card in Tarot symbolizes change and transformation. A Jedi must find their role and adapt to the circumstances that shape the immediate world around them. We must cultivate an atmosphere that inspires others to break free of chaos and move in harmony to a better world.

Passion, yet Serenity

We should seek to use our passion to aide others to help all find serenity. To break out of the shell of condemning each other. Helping people on both sides recognize that by calling each other names or lashing out at one another is only making things worse. That by doing anything but trying to create a meaningful dialogue which does not call for condemnation of them or yourself, can anything be accomplished.

Here are some tips (mostly geared towards Americans, I can’t speak to other countries, but some of it is relevant where ever you are):

1) Stop posting defamatory information about your opposite candidate.
2) Stop listening to what the media (all of it, right-wing, left-wing, centrists, MSM, all of it) has to say about what is going on and focus on whatever special interest group you are in favor of.
3) Express your fears without using bait words like “illegal”, “Muslim”, “racist” or “misogynist”.
4) Research your rights and seek out solutions to the problem of ensuring your rights are protected. An example: if you’re a woman, don’t let the media tell you that the law does not protect you against the wage gap. But take a deeper look at what loopholes your employer might be able to exploit in order to pay you less.
5) Join or form a group that helps and work for people in your special interest group.
6) Support lobbyists for your special interest group, they are the ones that help push legislation through Congress.
7) Without insulting or vilifying those in opposition to you, consider an ironclad argument that forces them to recognize they are not in control of your life. An example: Christians often speak to death of homosexuals because it’s an abomination to God. A member of the LBGT community can come up with a number of arguments, but the one that tends to be the most potent in my own arsenal is that converting to Christianity based on a fear that one’s lifestyle is abhorrent to the deity they follow is not sincere worship- and as such it would be the highest form of disrespect to said deity. But if a member of the LGBT is given an entire lifetime for God to reach out to them, there will always be hope that one day God will turn them from their lifestyle. As Christians, it is not our job to condemn them for their lifestyles, but rather to open up opportunities for God to speak to them- for God is the ultimate Judge, and not man. Christ gave individuals the chance to live a Godly life despite being surrounded by those that do not follow Christianity, and it was only through that lifestyle that anyone opened up to his message via himself or his disciples. So to, must Christians follow that example if we love God. (okay, so this point was a LOT longer than I intended, but I don’t get enough chances to give this view, so I’m going to take my golden opportunity! ;) XD!)
8) And finally: Protest. But protest when you are not so angry that you want to punch something- that sort of emotional state could lead you to doing things you regret later. But DO protest when you can. It helps demonstrate support for your cause.

Let your emotion tell you what is wrong, let your ignorance indicate you need to seek knowledge to bring about a sense of peace of mind.

Recognize the chaos around you and seek out guidance with the Force to transform it into harmony.

Let your passion bring about serenity around you.

Posted on: 2016/11/17 14:10
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