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Faster Than Light!
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http://www.physics-astronomy.org/2018 ... rchers-at-cern-break.html

Master Duro can verify that I have always said the "Laws of Physics" and the "Laws of man" have nothing to do with the real cosmos, Einstein was a brilliant man but just like all people he believed everything he wrote down was how things were every where, and he never thought that he could be wrong.

So after reading this what are your thoughts on everything you have learned to date?

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I think "what does it matter?". It just goes to show the universe is infinite and while we are apart of it. How does this help us develop as people? How does this bring us closer to a symbiotic relationship with the force?

In my opinion this kind of research only goes to continue the cycle of mankind's greed and desire for things to fill the void in their chests. What this means for man kind from a mechanical brain side of humans is awesome because it means technology has a future. But for a spiritual being without attachment to the mechanical it means nothing just that the universe we live in is amazing and the force tells us how tiny we are in it.

Other than that on the tech side we know that the speed of light isn't a content so this doesn't surprise me.

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Um guys, have you checked the date of the article?

(sorry for being such a killjoy though, lol)

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I agree with Sinistra. Can't trust anything on April Fool's Day lol.

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Yeah, apart from the fact that it was written on April fools day, General Relativity and the Standard Model of particle physics are... for lack of a better word, law.

General Relativity has been reaffirmed hundreds of times over the last century, and the Standard Model predicts literally millions of experiments and does so with such precision that without it, most of science wouldn't work, and by the way it has been never, I repeat NEVER, been wrong, just incomplete. It's us thats made the mistakes that have seemed to contradict General Relativity and the Standard Model, but every time we've found a "contradiction", we later figured out that we had made the mistake.

Math is finite. It doesn't lie. Granted, humans have interpreted things incorrectly and have been for millennia, but math isn't biased. It doesn't have a will, beliefs, an agenda, or any of the fallacies our ego creates. To quote a fictional scientist

"Numbers do not lie. Politics, and poetry, promises, these are lies. Numbers are as close as we get to the handwriting of god."

There have been numerous experiments that show that the speed of light is constant, and I can explain why.

Photons, the force carrying bosons (a boson is type of subatomic particle specific to the 4 fundamental forces of nature) for the electromagnetic force do not interact with the Higgs field. In fact, none of the known bosons interact with the Higgs field. (The Higgs field is an evenly dense "fluid" comprised of Higgs bosons aka The God Particle, these particles allow other types of particles to have mass, which sparked some debate as to whether mass should be included in the 4 fundamental forces as the 5th force a while back) However, since the other bosons do have a measurable amount of energy, they must travel at a constant speed if the law of conservation of energy is to be maintained. This can only happen if the particle is massless. Since photons can't have mass, they must travel at a constant speed.

Neutrinos are not a boson; they are actually leptons and therefore interact with the Higgs field and do have a measurable amount of mass. Since neutrinos do have mass, they can not travel at or faster than the speed of light in a vacuum. The reading that popped up saying that CERN detected neutrinos traveling faster than the speed of light was a mistake by the sensors not being calibrated by man correctly.

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And there is a problem with all math and laws created by man, and CainIsmene said it "it's law" laws of man are only factual in a maintained environment with in the cosmos the only thing that is maintained is dark matter.

Look at how we see the galaxy, asteroid fields are not closely packed, they are spread out miles and miles apart from each other, so even though gravity never stops it does lose it's strength and everything maintaining the "Law" of light speed is relevant to gravity causing particles to gain mass, no one seems to want to theorize about those areas of space that are devoid of any form of gravity.

Now I know people are going to state some scientific response or outright say I am wrong however nothing is EVER impossible it is only improbable which means it can happen when you test enough.
I seriously get irritated when people state the "laws of physics" say because it is only a law to people who chain themselves to never seeing past what they have learned.
Remember you must unlearn what you have learned in order to see the world and galaxy and inevitably the force as it truly is, not controlled by the laws of physics or anything else devised by simpletons of earth.

Sorry but that is how I see things.

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Scythe, I'm sorry that this is going to irritate you.

Gravity does not cause particles to gain mass... gravity is the bending of space-time which is caused by mass or energy.

As to what you said about no one theorizing as to areas of space devoid of space, we have and do know whats there. It's called zero point energy. see, zero point energy is the lowest energy state that can exist in a quantum system and since the universe is permeated by a multi-layered field in constant flux, there are constantly particles popping into and out of existence, so the "perfect" emptiness of space, devoid of gravity, matter, light, isn't actually empty. It has inherent properties

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It's all relative, didn't some smart guy say that as well?
I am definitely not educated enough to say anything about the true nature of cosmos, I leave that job to scientists and others who have dedicated their lives to learn and teach these things. A law, as it tends to be used in science after what I've seen, tends to be about the general functioning of phenomena, the general structure of the natural universe rather than a portrayal of its true nature. It may not speak to everything in it and humanity probably has a lot left to explore and learn about, but one doesn't need to throw the baby out with the bath water. Gravity definitely is. What goes up, must go down, according to the law. And yet, in some instances, it does not. Doesn't make the general law invalid, because gravity definitely still is. The different ways we can describe it, the different ways we can circumvent it, that applies too though. We put wings on something, and it flies. It's pretty awesome. Again, it's all relative. We can't say all that goes up, always comes down, because our own eyes see that it doesn't. And yet we cannot say that because of this, gravity is a false idea, because it is too.

Our mental constructs, ideas, the words we use and imagery we choose. Our ways of cataloging and explaining the world around us, as humans have always striven to. One can appreciate another's thoughts, even if one does not agree with them. Being able to reflect on and discuss the universe around us is a gift we can cherish as human beings, together as a community of learners. It's a blessing :)

Don't get me wrong, I fully appreciate science and all its given us. I think it's cool to be able to explain the world. As long as we're also striving to experience it. Appreciate it. And as long as we're able to do so as a community of people appreciating it together, co-operating on explaining it, rather than using it against each other or focus so on the ideas that we forget being.

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